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Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

infinitysnake — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:51:17 -0000

Are those going to be difficult to find? Sounds like work.

Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

albill — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:08:06 -0000

I've been directed today towards Christian Bunsen's "Egypt's Place in Universal History" which contained "The Book of the Dead" and Goodwin's "Fragment of a Graeco-Egyptian Work on Magic from a Papyrus in the British Museum" as sources from a couple of decades before the Golden Dawn.

Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

infinitysnake — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:01:34 -0000

That's why I'm not sure there were books, even...there couldn't have been many on the subject at that point, could there?

Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

infinitysnake — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:37:59 -0000

Thought- you could try the librarian at the Rosicrucian museum- they have a lot of unpublished ephemera, out of print stuff.

Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

albill — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:42:51 -0000

Oh, we know it isn't a coincidence. Mathers was well known in the 1880s for being in the British Museum. Waite wrote an amusing story about meeting him there and gathering, from what Mathers stated, that Mathers was looking at Egyptian materials there.

It's just very hard to nail down sources for Golden Dawn ideas of Egyptian beliefs (specifically on the soul) based on that. For other areas, we know what texts were available and often which ones were owned by them or quoted by them in other things they wrote.

Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

infinitysnake — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:34:06 -0000

No, but I thought it might be a clue. In any case, the geographical proximity to the museum can't be complete coincidence?

Iirc, the magic book came out 1896, and the Hathor book preceded it by a year. :-)

Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

albill — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:04:04 -0000

Yes, I've heard the rumors about Budge before. He isn't recorded on any membership rolls so if he helped anyone, it was as a friend as the rolls are pretty complete, especially since multiple initiations are recorded, etc.

His book came out in 1895, seven years after the GD was founded and, I believe, three years after the second order was created.

I'll have to double-check the dates on Farr's book but even that wouldn't explain what Mathers and Westcott were deriving their Egyptian elements from...

Re: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn

infinitysnake — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:12:09 -0000

I know Flo Farr wrote a book on the Bruce Codex & another whose name escapes me...iirc, hers was a pretty earlyu entry onn the subject..

In any case, rumor has it that Budge worked the Egyptian dept. for the British museum just around the corner from the London temple & may have helped out here and there.